1 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,079 When you walk into a club for the first time, 2 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,560 everybody's looking at you. 3 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,840 Everybody in that club is looking at you. 4 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,960 And the way you come in, I think, is important. 5 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,439 "I like a challenge. This is a big one." 6 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,199 Those were the words of José Mourinho 7 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,199 as he was unveiled as Real Madrid's new manager this morning. 8 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,239 He signed a deal... 9 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,119 Mourinho is set to become Real's manager. 10 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,439 Real Madrid unveils José Mourinho... 11 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,559 Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful isn't playing for Real Madrid. 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,439 Nor is it coaching Real Madrid. 13 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,079 Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful is winning for Real Madrid. 14 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:05,999 José Mourinho! 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,479 When José comes somewhere, it's extreme. Everything becomes extreme. 16 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,079 - José Mourinho... - José Mourinho... 17 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:12,920 José Mourinho... 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,839 Everybody's excited. 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,960 And he's very well aware of what he's doing. 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,920 Nothing is by accident or coincidence. 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,639 If you were already a coach who drove Barcelona fans crazy, 22 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,479 how does it feel to be the most hated coach by Barcelona? 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,639 People talk about mind games. He loved that. 24 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,279 The thing is if he wants to say things, he just say them. 25 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,320 If I'm hated in Barcelona, 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,959 that's the problem of those who hate me, not my problem. 27 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:47,479 I don't try to manipulate. 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,640 - Really? It feels like you-- - No. 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,640 People is only manipulated if they let themselves be manipulated. 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,719 It's not about the manipulator. 31 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,400 It's about the people open to be manipulated. 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,639 One of the best coaches, if not the best. 33 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,639 Having him in the Spanish league is great. 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,880 His character? 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,800 We are who we are. I'm not here to... 36 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,600 We are who we are. 37 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,959 I promise that I do not change. 38 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,679 I am José Mourinho, 39 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,480 and it is José Mourinho who arrives today at Real Madrid. 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,080 José Mourinho with all his qualities and with all his defects. 41 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,839 There is a relationship of love and hate 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,920 between Mourinho and many Barça fans, as well as the Barça management. 43 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,120 Mourinho loved Barça. 44 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:40,479 Barça was part of his life, 45 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,759 part of his construction as a coach, 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,440 while Real Madrid was something alien. 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,520 He feels scorned by Barça. 48 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:53,160 A desire for revenge. 49 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,600 For vindication. 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,479 Today, tomorrow, and always 51 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,240 with Barça in my heart. 52 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,279 It's El Clásico, the Spanish champions, 53 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,319 against La Liga's leaders. 54 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Barcelona against Real Madrid. 55 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,239 98,000 inside. Millions watching around the world. 56 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,679 A very special Special One, 57 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,519 what with the return of José Mourinho to his former employer, 58 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,360 looking for his first ever win on this ground as a coach. 59 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,559 How will Guardiola cope with that? 60 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,759 Two best players in the world, Ronaldo and Messi. 61 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,720 The two biggest clubs in the world going head-to-head. 62 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,719 In 2010, 63 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,760 when I go to Real Madrid, 64 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,479 the club doesn't win the title for a few years. 65 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,279 The club didn't qualify for the Champions League quarterfinal 66 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,920 for eight years. 67 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,759 Barcelona was dominating the Spanish football. 68 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,079 And, uh, the challenge was... 69 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,040 ...was to destroy it. 70 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:27,559 Tenacious, Messi wins it back. 71 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,399 The ball's glued to his foot. 72 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,919 Iniesta has Villa outside. Oh, plays it inside. 73 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,360 Great tackle, but, oh, it's a shot by Xavi! 74 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:41,160 A huge slice of luck gives Barcelona the lead. 75 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,039 We always felt the pressure to win. 76 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Uh, every time we were going to a place, we needed to deliver silverware. 77 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,360 So we knew that we had a big challenge. 78 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,319 I would say the biggest. 79 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,639 Toe-to-toe with Ramos. Gets the cross in. 80 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,000 Two-nil, Barcelona. 81 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,160 Now Messi. 82 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,360 Drifting, driving. David Villa. 83 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:03,760 Three-nil. 84 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:05,760 Game over. 85 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,320 Real Madrid had to stop supremacy, 86 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,640 to change mentalities, 87 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,040 to win titles. 88 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,400 But the job was ultra difficult. 89 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,079 A permanent fight. Every day, it had to be. 90 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,240 So I had to build from scratch. 91 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,239 Brilliant run by Villa. Can he finish it off? He can! 92 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,559 It's four to Barcelona. 93 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,400 When do the goals stop? 94 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,759 Bojan's cross. 95 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,079 Will it be five? 96 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,000 It will! 97 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:52,119 Biggest defeat of my career. I've never lost 5-0 before, that's true, 98 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,959 but one team played to their full potential, 99 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,080 and the other team played very badly. 100 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,239 When we lost 5-0, 101 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,959 it was one of the toughest weeks in my... in my whole career. 102 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,439 But I think that was, like, a big turnaround in his mind 103 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,120 about how we have to change to beat Barcelona. 104 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:31,680 In the Real Madrid squad were already phenomenal players. 105 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,200 We had Cristiano, top scorer. 106 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,560 We had Kaká. 107 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,439 We had Karim, Xabi. 108 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,999 At that time, Spain was world champion. 109 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,600 And we had Casillas, the captain and the biggest player. 110 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,239 Real Madrid had a fantastic squad, 111 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,160 but by the mental point of view, it was really very bad. 112 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,439 The first three times that I spoke with Casillas, the captain, 113 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,399 the first thing he told me was, 114 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,320 "I want to ask for more holidays for the national team players." 115 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,679 The second time he spoke with me was, 116 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,479 "I would like to ask you to put the training sessions one hour later 117 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,639 because at the time you want the training sessions, 118 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,600 there is a lot of traffic in Madrid." 119 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,239 The third time he come to speak with me was, 120 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,999 "We don't like to go to hotel." 121 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:29,119 "We prefer just to meet on match day and go direct to the stadium to play." 122 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,640 And in a short period of time, I realize... 123 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,000 ...they're spoiled. 124 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,400 When he was appointed Real Madrid's coach, 125 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,599 we knew perfectly well things were going to change. 126 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,919 You live with the pressure with José. 127 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,719 Sometimes it's... it's too much, 128 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,960 but Barcelona-Madrid is more than football. 129 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,040 It's, like, region. 130 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,320 It's language. 131 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,639 It's political, of course, because of the history of both teams 132 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,680 and, uh, what they represent for the people and fans. 133 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,359 When I arrived, 134 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,599 Real Madrid is the señorío of football, 135 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,520 which means being the gentleman, 136 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,479 the fair play, 137 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,920 but was a bad interpretation of this. 138 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,840 For me, señorío doesn't mean to accept your destiny. 139 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Señorío means... 140 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,560 ..."This is war." 141 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:36,600 So I needed to change this mentality. 142 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,319 You didn't need to be a psychic. 143 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,479 We saw it, all the journalists, all the fans. 144 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,480 We witnessed firsthand that a cultural change was taking place. 145 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,479 A new era began with Mourinho. 146 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,119 A proud movement 147 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,959 of not being beautiful, 148 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,959 of not being good. 149 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,360 We are bad. 150 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,760 Real Madrid, Barcelona. 151 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,119 Few are gonna forget that game earlier in the season. 152 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,759 Barcelona gave them a real good seeing-to, a 5-0 victory. 153 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,719 Barcelona has proved invincible over the years. 154 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,000 And it's a big game for Real Madrid in that sense at home. 155 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,479 Guardiola has been there, seen it, done it. 156 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,000 And when it comes to this fixture, always won it as a manager. 157 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,559 It didn't matter if it was a friendly, 158 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:36,439 a Copa del Rey game, a league game, or Champions League match. 159 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,559 He treated every game as if it were a final. 160 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:41,119 Some tackle this was. Whoa. 161 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,479 The linesman should be wearing shin guards! 162 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,079 He got into our heads and changed our mindset. 163 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,719 We started going into those games like it was life or death, 164 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,839 like we had to win. 165 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,520 Time for retribution, they feel, in Madrid. 166 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,879 We spoke two minutes about Barcelona 167 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,680 and then, like, 40 minutes about Lionel Messi. 168 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,920 He prepared every single detail. 169 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,679 He changed some players. Sometimes Pepe played as a number six, 170 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:13,319 then Sergio Ramos. 171 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,159 The most important thing was, how we can stop Lionel Messi? 172 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,679 Little one-two. Excellent football. 173 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:21,280 Messi on the blind side. Brilliant save by Iker Casillas. 174 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,999 It tells you about this match 175 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,879 when the best player is kept out by the best goalkeeper. 176 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,039 I was having a nightmare. What can we do to stop him? 177 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,800 It's Lionel Messi. 178 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,759 From the first game, I knew that we couldn't be better than them 179 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,520 doing the same as they do. 180 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,479 There's no way Mourinho's gonna give up on this game. 181 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,559 To beat them, we had to be different, 182 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,319 both on and off the pitch. 183 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,680 Marcelo makes a drive down the left side, and goes down. 184 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,960 He hasn't given a penalty? I can't believe he's given that. 185 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,760 Well, so far, it's Lionel Messi, one. 186 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,200 And now Cristiano Ronaldo, one. 187 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,839 An improved side, definitely, 188 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,000 from six months ago when they got hammered. 189 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,040 It's a much, much improved Real Madrid side. 190 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,599 A massive test for Guardiola, 191 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,279 maybe the first real test of his psychological strength 192 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,600 in terms of someone chipping away at him. 193 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,239 A league full of A-listers, but a B-list movie between those two. 194 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,680 It's personal. 195 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,279 We were football enemies in the sense we fight for the same cup, 196 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,999 for the same league, for the same Champions League. 197 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,760 I think it's a good thing. 198 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,079 Josep Guardiola is a fantastic soccer coach, 199 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,519 but he won a Champions League 200 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,680 that I would be ashamed to win. 201 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,279 In this room, he's the fucking boss. The fucking master. 202 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,959 The one who knows the most in the world, 203 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,280 and I don't even want to compete for a single moment. 204 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,239 That situation was complicated because of course I was the captain of Madrid 205 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,799 and also of the Spanish national team. 206 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,359 What happened was you were up against teammates 207 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,279 who were your enemies on the football field, 208 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,879 but they were your teammates when you had to represent the Spanish national team. 209 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,480 Well, I didn't like to see that, and I told the coach. 210 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:20,439 Casillas calls Xavi Hernández 211 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,239 and tells him that they have to make peace, 212 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,040 so to speak, to be teammates again. 213 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:28,639 Upon finding out, 214 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,039 Mourinho accuses Casillas of being a traitor. 215 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,079 A climate of suspicion is then created. 216 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,680 And the very contradictory feelings. 217 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,240 I always say, in every situation, 218 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,959 when you want to make a point, when you want to be right to the heart, 219 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,679 right to the jugular, 220 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:48,200 you don't do to the little ones. 221 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,960 You don't do to the little ones. You go to the big ones. 222 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,280 There are things that I don't accept and I will never accept. 223 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,760 And when somebody doesn't respect me, 224 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,280 it's a problem. 225 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,119 I say, "This is Barcelona-Real Madrid." 226 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,560 "When you go to national team, then you can kiss the guy." 227 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,479 But not now. 228 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:14,960 This is war. 229 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,280 In that season, I changed the club. 230 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,519 I changed the mentality. 231 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,160 Every match was really a tactical fight. 232 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,639 Guardiola looking for his ninth trophy as Barcelona head coach. 233 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,999 Mourinho has won cups in Portugal, England, and Italy. 234 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,160 Looking to complete the set here. 235 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:47,119 In this Real Madrid, 236 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,159 I had very, very little to teach to any one of them. 237 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,039 I couldn't teach Sergio Ramos how to head a ball. 238 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,239 No, I couldn't teach Cristiano how to score a goal. 239 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:02,080 So the profile was make them play as a team. 240 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,240 Ronaldo. 241 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,919 He explained everything, absolutely all the details, 242 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,919 and in the end, the training we did, when we got to the match, 243 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,600 it was exactly what he had said. 244 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,599 You are his brain on the pitch, and you have to follow 100%. 245 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,519 If you're not doing that... 246 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,000 ...he will kill you. 247 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,039 I always tell them, "If you think the same way as I think, 248 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,759 it's an easier life for you." 249 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,039 It's as simple as that. 250 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,839 Di Maria. Hit it well! 251 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,639 I can see the progress Mourinho has made 252 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,879 over the last five or six months with his side. 253 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,000 The balance of power has shifted. 254 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,919 Good ball from Marcelo there. Great cross, header, goal! 255 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,759 Cristiano Ronaldo! 256 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,800 A magnificent header. 257 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:04,999 It's all over. 258 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,719 Real Madrid have broken Barcelona's stranglehold. 259 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,040 And just look at these scenes of celebration. 260 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:15,520 Boom. 261 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,840 First cup, history changed. 262 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,199 A few days ago, someone called me a title coach, 263 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,360 not a football coach. Thank you. 264 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:27,360 Thank you. 265 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,279 After that, we had a phenomenal second season. 266 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,559 Week after week, win, win, win, win, win. 267 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,520 We won basically every game. 268 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,319 In that period, I felt that the world stopped, 269 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,599 and the eyes were on the best Barcelona, 270 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,080 the best Messi, 271 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,160 the best Cristiano, the best Real Madrid. 272 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,600 Guardiola, Mourinho. 273 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,559 In that season, we won the league. 274 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,280 100 points, 121 goals scored. 275 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,479 It's something incredible. 276 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:10,039 José Mourinho! 277 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,320 It's Mourinho's name. 278 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,159 As we said before, he's the Special One. 279 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,639 He doesn't leave anyone indifferent. 280 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,439 He's a special person. 281 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,799 But there's something indisputable. 282 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,039 He's a winner. Winner wherever he goes. 283 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,079 With his ways, his ideas, his virtues, and his defects. 284 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,840 But he's a winner, and Real Madrid wanted to be winners again. 285 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,439 End of that season, my feeling was 286 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,079 we did the job that we come for, 287 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,680 which was to break the dominancy of Barcelona. 288 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,560 I think we killed him. 289 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,080 Good morning. 290 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,279 We have gathered you here today 291 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,119 to officially announce to you that Guardiola will not continue 292 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:06,480 as coach next season. 293 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,799 The reason is very simple. It's been four years, and time wears everything down. 294 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,640 I am worn down, and I need a break. 295 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,520 Fighting so much every day. 296 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,839 Pep, he was tired of that fight, 297 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,400 of that permanent fight. 298 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,999 Barça have nothing left. Barça are already dead. 299 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,639 Now that Guardiola is gone, the Mourinho era begins. 300 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,000 Now the real Madrid of the '60s, the good one, is starting again. 301 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:37,919 Some guys, they need a sabbatical, 302 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,599 which is something that... 303 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,799 I... I hate that word. 304 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,519 For me, sabbatical means weakness. 305 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,200 You know, I... Don't speak with me about sabbaticals. 306 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,160 I never need a rest. 307 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,080 I will have a rest when he decides to say, 308 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,800 "Come, come up." 309 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,759 What Pep wants to do with his career is a personal plan. 310 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,159 I am no one to say anything, 311 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,480 but as Barcelona coach, 312 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,720 he is the perfect coach for me. 313 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,680 And you are the perfect coach for Real Madrid? 314 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:20,120 Real Madrid was a dressing room full of egos. 315 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,440 Was a dressing room full of stars. 316 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,519 For two seasons, 317 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,320 they had a mission, 318 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,320 and we worked together trying to reach it. 319 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,440 When we did it, 320 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,160 the third season 321 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,400 become... different. 322 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,839 Now it starts the difficult part, right? So... 323 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,959 We had the good times and the fun times. 324 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,680 And then... Yeah. 325 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,080 And also some really hard and bad times. 326 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,719 At the moment, he's winning, 327 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,639 but I don't know if he knows how to win properly. 328 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,839 It doesn't seem like it to me. But eventually he'll lose. 329 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,040 People who spit upward end up having it fall back down on them. 330 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,039 People can be together for a long time. 331 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,039 And if there is no empathy, 332 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,760 and if there is no pleasure in working together, 333 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,200 it's a major problem when you're building a group. 334 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,719 Third season, the pressure was higher. 335 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,079 So then maybe some of the... main characters, 336 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,160 they lost a bit their minds. 337 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,560 Mourinho sees on the website of the newspaper Marca 338 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,960 that his starting lineup is published. 339 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,999 Mourinho gathers his players. 340 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,080 He accuses them all of being traitors for leaking the lineup. 341 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,440 What happened is he went crazy. I remember he came in. 342 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,120 He called us all sorts of things. 343 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,479 We were the ones to blame for how all of this was. 344 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,880 I don't know, he might've kicked a bottle... 345 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,200 He slammed his office door, went in. 346 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,319 He was pissed. That's how he is. 347 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,399 Look at it this way. 348 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,679 He studies, he works hard to come up with the best possible way 349 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,879 for us to win a game. 350 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,640 And then something leaks that was only meant for us, you know. 351 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,360 It's the club. The club is so big. 352 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,759 You know, a small problem in the dressing room, 353 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,640 next day is big news in the papers. 354 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,119 José likes to control. 355 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:24,600 And, um, it was difficult for him. 356 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:28,999 Hello, everyone. We're about to start the press conference. 357 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,359 Just to let you know, 358 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:32,960 José Mourinho will not be answering any questions. 359 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,200 None whatsoever. 360 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,279 To protect the team, you have to try... to block, 361 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,920 to close, to build a wall. 362 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,080 Don't give ammunition to opposition. 363 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,720 Don't betray. 364 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,360 Who was it? 365 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,879 The mole, of course. And who is the mole? 366 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,200 Well, go on, look for him, find him. 367 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,199 There are always guys who are closer to the media world than others. 368 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,760 Can be your best friend, your agent, your... You never know. Your wife. 369 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,959 I believe that was... ...was not my wife. 370 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,880 Man, to this day, we still want to know which scumbag did that. 371 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,479 We knew. We are almost certain who were. 372 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,040 Because at the end, the answers were in the papers. 373 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,280 You can never prove, but you're almost certain that... 374 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,280 how the things are operated. 375 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,719 Well, we can see Casillas there in the background, 376 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,000 not in the lineup today. 377 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:45,559 Whether you think Mourinho has, uh, had a successful three years at Madrid or not, 378 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,359 there are one or two problems 379 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:50,679 with differences of opinion, bad relationships. 380 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,200 And you wonder what the future will bring in the Santiago Bernabéu. 381 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,519 Iker is a Real Madrid legend, 382 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,839 loved by every Real Madrid supporter. 383 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,439 He benched him and doesn't speak to him, spoke bad about him in the media. 384 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,680 So then this locker room was a nightmare, honestly. 385 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,439 The problems in a team start 386 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,279 when a player thinks he is more important than the others, 387 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,120 and with that, yes, obviously there are problems. 388 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,679 For once and for all, let's see if you can all understand this. 389 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,240 I choose who plays. 390 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,599 For me, I like Diego López more as a goalkeeper 391 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,560 than Iker Casillas. It's simple. 392 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,760 The relationship between José and many players were broken. 393 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,679 Like Cristiano and the Spanish guys, 394 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,559 Casillas, Sergio Ramos. 395 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,559 And those players were, like, super, super important 396 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,560 for the atmosphere in the locker room, so then it was, like, poisoning it. 397 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,399 I haven't experienced in my life 398 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,439 such a serious fracture inside Madrid 399 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,159 as the one Mourinho has created. 400 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,919 Nobody knows where the leaks come from. 401 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,000 The changing room of Real Madrid's broken. It's clearly broken. 402 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,799 Madrid stops tonight 403 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,519 as both halves of the Spanish capital go head-to-head 404 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,520 to see who will be crowned 2013 King's Cup champions. 405 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,839 It does seem incredible Atlético haven't beaten Real this century. 406 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,559 Twenty-five games. 407 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,879 It's got to come to an end, and who's to say, 408 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,840 with all the problems at Real Madrid, that won't be tonight? 409 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,759 For me, a man in football is a team man. 410 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,879 López. 411 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,439 Ready to suffer, ready to sacrifice, not being selfish. 412 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000 The team is more important than anything. 413 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,279 It's about attitude. It's a one-off. It's a cup final. 414 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,039 Anybody could win it. 415 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,879 You need some luck to win a trophy. 416 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,160 They've had two huge slices of it now, Atlético Madrid. 417 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,760 There are only a few players 418 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,840 that are committed, focused, 419 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:13,919 and for whom football is currently the top priority in their lives. 420 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,880 When you have only a few committed players, it's complicated. 421 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:24,479 Ronaldo! 422 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,239 It's in! Ronaldo! 423 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,759 Swift feet here from Falcao. 424 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,519 Into Diego Costa. Real chance. 425 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,999 Goal! 426 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,760 The Atlético Madrid fans have gone berserk. 427 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,000 It's too much for Casillas. 428 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,839 Real Madrid goalkeeper can't have believed when he came in on an emergency signing 429 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,079 that he would be starting the final and Casillas would be out of favor. 430 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,200 How things can change in such a short time in football. 431 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,239 The relationship José and I had was very cold. 432 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,759 In those years, 433 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,719 I really think it was taken to a limit 434 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,519 where in the end, the rope broke. 435 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,600 It just broke. 436 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:04,879 Koke again. 437 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,440 Great cross. Header's in. Miranda! 438 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,240 And the cup goes to Atlético Madrid. 439 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,760 For the first time in Mourinho's coaching career, 440 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,000 a full season will end without a trophy. 441 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,919 I believe that they were tired of me as a leader, 442 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,720 and I also was tired of them. 443 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,359 I also was tired of them. It was not just them tired of me. 444 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,439 Do you like playing in this team? 445 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,480 I don't like it, but I have to adapt to what the team asks me. 446 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,839 It's true that right now there's someone 447 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,479 who I think is ruining football, Spanish football. 448 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,159 Mourinho is a cruel character, 449 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,119 a despotic character, an arrogant character. 450 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:52,359 His generation of management is done. 451 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:54,079 - A dinosaur - A disgrace. 452 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,719 José Mourinho is now very much a damaged brand. 453 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,799 I've never seen a pitch invasion by cameramen before. 454 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,720 Extraordinary scenes. 455 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,760 I was tired of players. I was tired of the press. 456 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,239 There was a lot of pressure on me. 457 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,599 This atmosphere is very negative. 458 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,079 Is that the response of the Bernabéu to José Mourinho's three years in charge? 459 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,719 I'm not sure if the boos are for Mourinho 460 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,639 or for the way the photographers encroached on the technical area. 461 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,039 Obviously, there are two theories. One is to completely blame Mourinho. 462 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,640 The other is to blame the persecution of Mourinho. 463 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,439 I know in England, I'm loved. 464 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,759 And in Spain, the situation is a bit different 465 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,639 because, uh, some people hate me. 466 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,999 And, uh... many of you are in this room. 467 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,160 Many of them are in this room. 468 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,159 After discussion with our coach José Mourinho, 469 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,799 we have reached an agreement to end the contractual relationship 470 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,720 at the end of this season. 471 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,279 When I left Real Madrid, the president was saying, 472 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,639 "Now comes the easy one 473 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,760 because we are going up, and they are going down." 474 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,920 But I wanted to leave. 475 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,840 The feeling was, 476 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,760 "Job done." 477 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,359 One of the problems Chelsea has got 478 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:30,279 is there's no stability at that club. 479 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,319 I mean, what is it? Seven managers Chelsea have had since 2008. 480 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,959 So whoever comes in next I imagine will feel the same pressure 481 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,480 'cause they'll need answers. They'll need results instantly. 482 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,839 I was told many times, people that is, uh, superstitious, 483 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,160 never go back to a place where you were happy before. 484 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,720 I'm not superstitious. 485 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,679 The first approach was, "Roman wants you back." 486 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,439 "He realized you are the best." 487 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,399 Chelsea is in a period of transition. 488 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,880 The club was in trouble. 489 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,720 There is a new team to build. So I took the challenge. 490 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,319 Finally, he's back, 491 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,639 the man whose swagger and self-belief turned Chelsea into champions. 492 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,799 But nearly six years after leaving London, 493 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,719 can he do it all over again? 494 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,639 Are you still a special one? 495 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,999 I'm the happy one. 496 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,679 Completely out of the blue, José calls me and says, "I'm coming home." 497 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,759 I wanted to hug him through the phone, you know? It was amazing. 498 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,079 I was like... I couldn't quite believe it. 499 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,960 This was like my dreams come true. 500 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,800 I was in Portugal with my wife, and we're sitting at the table. 501 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,679 I get a phone call from him, and he says, 502 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,239 "You're my captain, and we're gonna win the league." It was incredible. 503 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,959 I remember talking with John Terry, with Lampard, saying, 504 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,439 "Oh, you will see. This guy is... he's top." 505 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,559 "He's number one." 506 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,239 And we saw it straight at the beginning, first training. 507 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,679 For me, it was great. 508 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,480 Mourinho! Mourinho! 509 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,879 I go to Chelsea in 2013. 510 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,920 But in that period, there is something nobody knows. 511 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,920 I think I can say because I don't hurt anyone with the truth. 512 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,840 And I think the objective of this work that we are doing 513 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,640 is to tell the truth. 514 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,640 When I left Real Madrid, 515 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,440 I signed with Manchester United to go to Manchester United after Sir Alex. 516 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,359 He was offered the job, yes. 517 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,960 I sat him down and explained, you know, the situation, and... 518 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,000 {\an8}As far as I was, kind of, concerned, he was accepting. 519 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,960 And then, within hours, had changed. 520 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,760 I was, of course, very flattered 521 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,319 because Man United has an incredible appeal. 522 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,640 When I say Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world, 523 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,120 I have to say that Man United is... 524 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,720 is very, very close. 525 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,719 But one thing is love for football, 526 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,320 and another thing is love for a certain club. 527 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,879 I think this is more powerful than love for football. 528 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,159 And fundamentally, after Real Madrid, 529 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,760 I needed to feel... that I'm loved. 530 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,800 Early evening, he phoned me, and he was crying. 531 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,959 And he says, "Alex, I can't take it." 532 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,759 "I've given my word to Chelsea, and I'm not gonna break my word." 533 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,679 You know, the reason he gave to me, I could understand. 534 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,040 But I was disappointed. 535 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:45,600 For me, to lose the chance to be the coach to succeed Sir Alex 536 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,760 was... dramatic. 537 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,119 But I don't regret 538 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,840 {\an8}because it was a decision that I made with my heart. 539 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,759 And, uh, I think it is Nietzsche 540 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,920 that said something that when you do something for love, 541 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,000 you are never doing anything wrong. 542 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,000 I think it's Nietzsche. 543 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,200 I did it for love. 544 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,320 I went back with the feeling of, yes, I go home, 545 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,079 but with big responsibility 546 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,279 because, uh, what I did before is history. 547 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,440 And you don't want to destroy your legacy. 548 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,599 It'll be interesting to see the level of control 549 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,999 José Mourinho has at Chelsea when he comes back. 550 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,719 He commands the utmost of respect from those players. 551 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,679 But he does now face some tough choices 552 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,959 as he looks to get them challenging again at the top of the league and in Europe. 553 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,799 In terms of his reputation within the game now, 554 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,199 given everything that's happened, where is he? 555 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,879 I think we'll see a different José coming back. 556 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,519 A José with something to prove, 557 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,919 which should be even more intriguing, more exciting. 558 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,799 I had a little hope that I could have the time, 559 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,959 um, the space, 560 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,360 to create a dynasty. 561 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,360 But Roman is Roman. 562 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,800 I think José, um, searching for 563 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,279 establishing himself in a club on a long term 564 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,960 for happiness in his life, 565 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,320 I would say that is impossible. 566 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,159 And when that doesn't happen 567 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,480 is when he, um... he feels 568 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,040 let down. 569 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,399 The club he had at Chelsea when he first came 570 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,839 was this young group together. 571 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,000 We needed a couple additions, and we were... go. 572 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,599 When he came back, it was different. 573 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,199 We had a lot of manager change. 574 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,759 A manager brought players, so there was not harmony 575 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,800 that he walked into in the first place and probably desire. 576 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,839 Players had changed. 577 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,119 Were they receptive to his behaviors and his demands? No. 578 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,159 Was he gonna change? 579 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,279 No, because I had that conversation with him. 580 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,079 He was like, "My approach has worked for the last 20 years." 581 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,679 "Why do I have to take my level down to somebody else's level?" 582 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240 "I need and want people at 100% for me to win." 583 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,239 José is not scared to say something in front of everyone. 584 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,079 He's gonna tell you, "You're bad." 585 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,160 And when you're just beginning... ...not easy. 586 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,439 He said, "I want to tell you one thing." 587 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,640 "You know oranges? When you put them in a basket?" 588 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,960 "When one is bad 589 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,400 and it touches all the oranges, 590 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,600 they all become bad." 591 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,720 "So don't become a bad orange." 592 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,760 And then left. 593 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,279 He'd press people's buttons. Knew how to press mine. 594 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,639 He knew how to press Lamps's 595 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,200 and get the best and suck every last bit out of everyone. 596 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,759 You put pressure. 597 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,640 And top players with pressure, they become bigger. 598 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,399 Quite a distance out. 599 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,400 It hasn't deterred him, and that's why! 600 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,240 And he turns and runs towards his mentor. 601 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,399 What he did was probably use some psychological trick on me 602 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,799 to try and get it out of me. 603 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,039 That makes it sound cynical, but I don't care. 604 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,599 Looking back, that's management. 605 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,560 You try and get the best out of people. 606 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,839 I think for him, it was a game. 607 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,520 I don't know, but I think it was a kind of game. 608 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,199 Everything was a game. 609 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,440 He would do anything to win, so it's exactly what he did. 610 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,000 Can you believe this? 611 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,919 The mayhem here, it's falling around their ears. 612 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,840 José Mourinho, sent away by Chris Foy. 613 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,719 No defense for one of your players 614 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:40,880 when he stamps on an opposition player. 615 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,039 I think sometimes, I can be pretty aggressive, 616 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,239 but I never did it to enjoy myself. 617 00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:49,399 I never did it with the intention to hurt. 618 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,160 I always did it to get results. 619 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,239 Even when it got personal? 620 00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:55,120 Yeah. 621 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,960 It's always about winning. 622 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,560 In my private life, I think I'm sweet. I think I'm nice. 623 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,680 Not rude. Not ruthless. 624 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,159 But when you are in your privacy with your friends, your family, 625 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,280 with the people that you love, 626 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,360 you are not playing a game. 627 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,800 You are not trying to win. 628 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,680 Football is to win. 629 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,960 And I don't want to look like 630 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,000 arrogant again and again and again. 631 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,960 But I won a lot. 632 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,799 The second season was amazing. 633 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,639 We won the League Cup. We won the Premier League. 634 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,399 And, wow, we were flying. 635 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,359 And it's smashed home by Diego Costa. 636 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,480 In that second season, we were the best team by far. 637 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,960 Oh, beautifully done. 638 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,759 Eden Hazard scores for Chelsea. 639 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,560 Diego Costa! 640 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,080 Surely wins the game for Chelsea. 641 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,520 It is Oscar! 642 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,319 Absolutely dazzling. 643 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,239 Top of the league from the first to the last match. 644 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,200 It was amazing. 645 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,559 Drogba. Hazard! 646 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,079 Lovely combination! 647 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,079 So dominant, so good. 648 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,399 - Did you enjoy? I think everybody does. - Towards Hazard! 649 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,119 Eden was phenomenal. 650 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,320 That season, 651 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,079 he destroyed everybody. 652 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,799 Ah, for me, it's easy, you know? 653 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,599 He was always saying to me, 654 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,559 "You want a day off on Sunday, you have to produce on Saturday." 655 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,119 I was like, "What? Day off on Sunday?" 656 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,439 "I'm gonna give you everything on the pitch." 657 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,240 "Thank you so much." 658 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,920 Chelsea are the champions. 659 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,720 The best in the country by a country mile. 660 00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:59,520 The Premier League title returns to Stamford Bridge. 661 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,199 What have you made of Mourinho since he's come back? 662 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,399 - He's the best manager in the world. - Legend. 663 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,880 Yeah, the title's ours next season as well, so... 664 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,959 Journalists love writing about you. 665 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,679 I'm sure you hate their opinions. 666 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,639 But one of the things that comes up a lot is this idea of the three-season syndrome. 667 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,759 I'm sure you've heard this lots. 668 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,359 Do you believe in that? 669 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,240 No. 670 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,680 I don't see any... 671 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,920 any problem with, uh... 672 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,840 with the third season. 673 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,440 Not at all. 674 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,040 The problem is when you reach on the first and the second... 675 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,759 ...the third becomes... 676 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,400 becomes more complicated. 677 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,239 Agüero to Touré to Agüero. 678 00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:03,920 Still Agüero! Magnificent. 679 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,280 Off and running for the season. 680 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,679 The third season at Chelsea, 681 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,519 it's the famous season of Leicester champion. 682 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,360 Silva. 683 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,360 And we, as champions, 684 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,439 we lost it. 685 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,719 It's rare to see Chelsea on the rack. 686 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,120 Fernandinho! 687 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,000 It's the perfect game for Manchester City. 688 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,360 The 3-0 is completely fake. 689 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,439 We were the best team, but, uh, that's not enough. 690 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,560 An early marker laid down 691 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,839 at the end of a very difficult week for Mourinho and Chelsea. 692 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,759 He's very intense. 693 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,599 Maybe after a couple of years, you just squeeze everything out, 694 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,799 and then the third year becomes difficult. 695 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,040 One point from six. Are you concerned? 696 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,319 Well, one point from six is better than zero points from six, 697 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,239 and it's worse than two points from six. I know that I'm quite okay in... 698 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:02,880 in mathematics. 699 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,359 A season of misery 700 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,600 plumbs new depths for Chelsea. 701 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,240 We'd seen from the outside in Real Madrid, I think he'd had 702 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,959 big political things to deal with, as Real Madrid is as a club, 703 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,919 some fallouts you'd heard about. 704 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,480 And I think he was probably bruised. He said he's bruised. I get that. 705 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,399 It's normal a manager after defeat is, "No smiling." "Why didn't this happen?" 706 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,239 But then to carry it on for two or three days is different. 707 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:30,799 That can affect the environment. 708 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,079 I sensed he found it harder the second time. 709 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,999 Simply the best. Still special? 710 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,240 It's become sub-normal. 711 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,279 What are your thoughts on the game? 712 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,000 I can't express my feelings. 713 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,080 - In any way at all? - In any way at all. 714 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,839 You try to understand if there's something wrong with the training. 715 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,079 You try to understand if something wrong personally with the players. 716 00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,440 But then it becomes, you understand, it becomes a mental thing. 717 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,680 I still can't explain what happened then. 718 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,879 When you win, everything is great. You're beautiful. I'm beautiful. 719 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,160 If you're ugly, they're gonna say you're beautiful. 720 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,760 You know, when you start not winning games, it's different. 721 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,039 People saying, "It's your fault." "No, it's your fault." "It's your fault." 722 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,800 And that creates problem. 723 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,759 Like all good love bombers, and Mourinho's so good at love-bombing, 724 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,639 he's just manipulating you. 725 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,039 He's in control of your every emotion, of your every whim. 726 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,999 He's capricious with it. 727 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,560 He makes the players think when it goes wrong, it's their fault. 728 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:42,599 I know one of my best qualities is... is to read the opponent, 729 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,639 is to identify every detail about the opponents. 730 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,519 And, um, when you have some players, they don't go to the normal level, 731 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,840 I feel that my work was betrayed. 732 00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:01,079 I went to an approach of not accepting and having fights. 733 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,439 And when you have fight after fight after fight, 734 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,479 you... you also lose empathy. 735 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,679 You've spoken many times about having the untouchables in your squad. 736 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,400 How many would you say are untouchable at the moment? 737 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,639 We wasn't in a good place as a football club. 738 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,879 We were a little bit of an aging squad. 739 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,359 Some good signings come in, 740 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,879 but things were changing at the football club. 741 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,319 We finished champion the year before, 742 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,559 but we are not winning games anymore. 743 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,999 The one guy is injured. Another guy is injured. 744 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,399 It's not just about one player. The whole package is bad. 745 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,320 Then we have also the story with, you remember, the doctor. 746 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,360 The story was very simple. 747 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,200 We were playing at home against Swansea. 748 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:51,280 Willian. It's looped in! 749 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,320 Met by Courtois. 750 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,079 - Penalty. - We were playing with ten men. 751 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,560 What a big moment for Bafé Gomis, 752 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,560 who equalizes for Swansea. 753 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,879 High drama at the Bridge. 754 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,440 Eden fell. 755 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,800 Williams with a cumbersome challenge. 756 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,039 I'm not a doctor. 757 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,719 But my eyes, they know when a player is injured, 758 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,879 and they know when a player is not injured. 759 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,760 I knew that he was not injured. 760 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,880 But the doctors went to the pitch. 761 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:31,759 And in that moment, we were left with nine players. 762 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,039 One of the silly rules that hasn't been changed. 763 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,359 When a player gets fouled and the opponent gets booked, 764 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,719 why does the player have to leave the field? 765 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,760 It's not time-wasting if he's been booked. 766 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,119 Medically, he would say, 767 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,680 unless it's really, really bad, then they're not coming on. 768 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,039 That was the understanding of us as players. 769 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,800 The medical staff, everyone bought into that. 770 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,999 To be fair, was nothing special. I was on the floor. She came. 771 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,039 But because it's José, with José, everything is bigger. 772 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,359 For me, a lady doctor is the same as a man's doctor. 773 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,479 Hey! And now we play with nine! Fucking hell. 774 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,040 We play with nine now. Fuck off, man. 775 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,319 Fuck you, man. 776 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,280 So, as always, I use my 777 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,760 vocabulary when I'm not happy. 778 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,080 And now we play with nine. Fucking hell. 779 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:37,040 Nothing's changed. The summer months have not mellowed him. 780 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,719 Why? Why? Is he dying? 781 00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,199 We play with nine! Fucking hell. 782 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,039 There are words in a moment where, uh, the tension is very, very high. 783 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,479 Normally, people with football culture, 784 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,479 with football DNA, with football background, 785 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,960 they go over it in one second. 786 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,080 In that case, was... was different. 787 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,799 José! Any regrets about the language you used? José? 788 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,359 - Why no apology? - Eva! 789 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,879 After ten months, 790 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,999 Eva Carneiro finally got a settlement she felt was acceptable. 791 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,999 Crucially, it included a public apology. 792 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,080 Whoa. These people are mad. 793 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,039 It was a big moment, obviously. And he took a lot of backlash for that. 794 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,040 Was that the reason he was fired? 795 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,680 There was a lot of heat on the football club. 796 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,479 It's another issue in a season 797 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,039 that has left the Special One looking ordinary 798 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,600 and showing the strain like never before. 799 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,639 The media around Chelsea, every day, every press conference, 800 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,959 what's going to happen, the lawyer from the club, 801 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,879 then the lawyer from the doctor, then who is going to be witness. 802 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,599 All this situation didn't help. 803 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,640 But come on. 804 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,600 I was sacked because, uh, we were losing. 805 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,560 With Roman, you win, or you are sacked. It's simple. 806 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,159 Major breaking news this evening. 807 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,119 The Special One has been dismissed for a second time. 808 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,399 The most successful manager in Chelsea's 110-year history, 809 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,600 José Mourinho, gone. 810 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,719 Every time I leave a club by the club decision, 811 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:30,479 I always feel hurted, I always feel upset. 812 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,039 But there is no discussion. 813 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,640 If they say, "We want to change," what are you going to do? "Please don't"? 814 00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:37,920 You have to leave, you have to leave. 815 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,760 I envy my colleagues that have ways to relax, to enjoy. I envy them. 816 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,680 That's not me. 817 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,720 I'm always peaceful. 818 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:54,840 Look at this. I'm always peaceful. 819 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,920 Football is a job that 820 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,240 absorbs me. 821 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,280 And that's the way I am. 822 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,239 No gardening, no cooking, no cleaning, 823 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:11,360 no golf, no padel, no nothing. 824 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,520 No nothing. 825 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,359 It is a lonely job. 826 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,759 It's a job you have to be completely invested in. 827 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,720 You have to put to the side certain things you don't want to. 828 00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:26,240 Family, 829 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,720 children. 830 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,880 Um, and we're all human, so that will take its toll at some point. 831 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,400 It's difficult for them. It's difficult. 832 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,239 Sometimes you have a feeling of guilt. 833 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:43,560 Sometimes you have a feeling of, "I should be there. I'm not there." 834 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:49,240 But I don't want you to think that family means something less important to me. 835 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,800 They are in a place they cannot even be compared with football. 836 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,999 But to tell the truth, um, 837 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,720 I know that they enjoy life much more without me. 838 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,600 That's... That's real. 839 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,840 What does it feel like saying that? 840 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,640 No. It's... It's true. 841 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:13,480 If they go to a restaurant with me, it's different than without me. 842 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,719 I try to protect as much as I can, 843 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:19,280 but many times, of course, I... I fail. 844 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,080 It's not... It's not easy. 845 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,560 The mum is a great mum. 846 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,080 And they understand 847 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,680 that, um, to be what I am, in football, this is my way. 848 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,880 They need to understand it. 849 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,600 They need to understand it. 850 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,200 You are pushing me to speak about myself, which I don't want to. 851 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,879 You know, I will be always, until my last day, 852 00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,520 honest with my feelings. 853 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,919 But I think your happiness, your unhappiness, your problems, 854 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,280 you leave it in the door of the training ground. 855 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,319 Probably it's an old-fashioned way of looking at things, 856 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,559 but that's who I am. 857 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,440 And, uh, in the end, I don't want to change. 858 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,000 It's too late. 859 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,119 José is a very proud person. 860 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,279 He's very proud, a very strong character. 861 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,519 He will never show weakness, 862 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,199 and he will never show fragility. 863 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,559 Here, please. 864 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,440 But when he was at United, he was different. 865 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,599 Good morning. We've had various incarnations 866 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,159 since you've been in England. 867 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,279 You've been the Special One, the Happy One. 868 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,040 What does Manchester make you? 869 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,800 I don't know. 870 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,319 During your period at United, you lose your father. 871 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,759 How can you process something as big as that 872 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,760 when it's happening so publicly? 873 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,720 You don't want to make me cry 874 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,880 because I don't want. 875 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,519 We have a job to do. We have a big job to do. 876 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,839 We are paid to do the job. We have to do the job. 877 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,720 When you leave the... the training ground, 878 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:24,760 you open the door of your car, 879 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,640 the problems go in, 880 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,319 and then you have to live with them, 881 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,400 to suffer with them, to resolve them. 882 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,360 But I think at football, a top professional 883 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,640 should be like this. 884 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,800 People think they know me, but they don't know me. 885 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,720 And I'm happy they don't. 886 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,880 It's a privilege for the ones that know me. 887 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,639 I'm curious why you don't want the world to know who you are. 888 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,680 I don't care. 889 00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,840 I... I just don't care. 890 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,960 I don't like to speak about my privacy. I don't like to speak about myself. 891 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,600 I... I really don't... I really don't care. 892 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,200 I really don't care. 893 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,639 Steve Jobs, uh... 894 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,399 What do I want to know about Steve Jobs? 895 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,439 I don't give a shit about Steve Jobs as a kid. 896 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,640 I want... I want to know how Steve Jobs becomes Steve Jobs. 897 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,279 You know, the dimension-- 898 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,319 How do you become that without your childhood? 899 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,599 No, but the childhood, you know, if the book is 500 pages, 900 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,080 the childhood should be five. 901 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:36,880 And that's enough. 902 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,680 - Are you curious about people? - No. 903 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,640 I'm curious about careers. 904 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,359 If you take me to other directions, 905 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:51,599 to do a little bit about what you feel I am, 906 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,279 that's fine for me. 907 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,999 If it's more, I will not be happy, and I close the door. 908 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,280 It's my career. You want to do a documentary because of my career. 909 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,839 You don't do a documentary with a guy that wins nothing in football. 910 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,640 Where is a documentary about the guy that won nothing? I don't know. 911 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,999 Mourinho's world view is, "If I win, 912 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,120 that's the only thing that counts." 913 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:19,160 Which means if you don't win, 914 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,000 what's left of you? 915 00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,079 The Muhammad Ali of football management. 916 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,079 He walked in a room, he told everybody he was the greatest thing, 917 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,479 and went about to prove that. 918 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,439 There's no argument about what he has been. 919 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,000 But it's about now, isn't it? 920 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,999 Not to belittle anything you've done in recent years, 921 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,119 but why do you think you haven't done anything 922 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,159 that people regard as, you know, like Porto, like Inter, like Chelsea? 923 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,200 Excuse me? 924 00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:49,719 Winning the Champions League. 925 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:52,960 Why have you not been able to recreate those moments, do you think? 926 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,440 I don't know. 927 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,759 I did it. I went to a cup final with Tottenham. 928 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,199 I didn't play it. I did it. 929 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,680 I won three titles with Manchester United, even one European cup. I did it. 930 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,680 What I did in Porto, in the beginning, I did in Roma three years ago. 931 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,960 One was Champions League, and another was Conference League. 932 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,680 In every situation, there is objectives in relation to the potential. 933 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,519 These objectives, I promise you I reach them. 934 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,360 Small miracles. Small miracles. 935 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,440 But the big ones? 936 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,360 Jesus Christ. 937 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,960 With my career, I won the right to be happy. 938 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,079 I was not going to win the Champions League in Rome, 939 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,840 but I was happy. 940 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,760 What happens when that goes wrong? 941 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,120 When goes wrong, goes wrong. 942 00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:09,599 José Mourinho is no longer the coach of Roma. 943 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,959 Mourinho is moving on, 944 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,320 and reports suggest it is gonna be Fenerbahçe. 945 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,199 If I have to swim through a water of disappointments, 946 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,720 you keep swimming. 947 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,079 I don't quit at all. I go, I go, I go. 948 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,439 I break a wall. I keep going. 949 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,480 Your dreams are now my dreams. 950 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,599 - This is peak Mourinho. - Make Fenerbahçe great again. 951 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,319 Yeah. At Roma, he rediscovered what happens to your soul 952 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,999 when you're adored and loved by millions of people. 953 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,639 That probably does something to the wiring of your brain. 954 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,239 I think he's now chasing these dopamine hits. 955 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,199 There is no decline. There is no fall. 956 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,359 He's always chasing the shadow of what he used to be. 957 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,359 José Mourinho out at Fenerbahçe after little more than a season. 958 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,880 Not exactly the most glorious tenure of his career. 959 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,919 My world is to walk in a stadium 960 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,519 with 50,000 or 90,000. 961 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,480 I had 100,000. That's my world. 962 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:13,279 Without football, there is not something complete in me. 963 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,280 But I don't think it's an obsession. 964 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,080 I don't feel it as an obsession. 965 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:24,400 It's just when you reach a certain level, you want to stay there forever, no? 966 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,399 I still think he's got a huge amount to give to football and the right club. 967 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,080 If you want an easy life, don't get José Mourinho. 968 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,440 But if you wanna win things and shake it up, get him. 969 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,120 I will live for Benfica. I will live for my mission. 970 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,759 I am 61, and I cannot even imagine 971 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,399 when I'm going to stop my life in football. 972 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,599 I say ten more years, but maybe more than ten. 973 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:54,840 It's fun. 974 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,120 It was, it is, and will always be. Always fun. 975 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,479 He's been in the game for so long. 976 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,759 His career has been amazing. 977 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,320 He made noise wherever he went. 978 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,679 He brings chaos. He brings the whole package. 979 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,039 Respect, man. Respect. 980 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,160 He should always be considered one of the best ever. 981 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,799 Somebody totally driven and somebody totally different 982 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,319 to what you used to see. 983 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,839 I arrive here with my ego... 984 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,840 Now it's even higher. 985 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,999 His legacy will live on forever at Chelsea. 986 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,519 And who knows? He might come back. 987 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,159 The legacy as well will be the one who wanted to say what he thinks. 988 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,400 Although he created a lot of trouble, 989 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,960 but he did it his own way. 990 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,839 What do you still have to achieve? 991 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,280 I want to win more titles. I want to win new titles. 992 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,920 I want to repeat titles. 993 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,640 I want to do it in places where I have never been. 994 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,080 I want to do it in places where I did before. 995 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,719 Very big breaking news, and it's about José Mourinho. 996 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:20,079 They say you should never go back, but after 13 years, 997 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,479 José Mourinho is returning to Real Madrid. 998 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,599 This is why we love football. 999 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,159 This is driven by that sense of nostalgia. 1000 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,639 The thing about nostalgia is some of the details, 1001 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,199 some of the awkwardness, kinda gets forgotten with time, 1002 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,199 and people hang on to the bit they liked. 1003 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,039 This is gonna be as big a test as he's ever had. 1004 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,520 Is the Special One really the man to save Real Madrid? 1005 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,680 Thinking about it, is there anything you would've done differently? 1006 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,520 No. It is what it is.